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Difference Between Rating And Sizing?
Started by sanaullah, Oct 08 2012 02:20 AM
ratings sizing difference
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#1
Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:20 AM
Dear members,
Can anybody please describe the difference between rating and sizing?
For example pump rating, pump sizing and Exchanger rating , and exchanger sizing
Regards
Can anybody please describe the difference between rating and sizing?
For example pump rating, pump sizing and Exchanger rating , and exchanger sizing
Regards
#2
Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:46 AM
sanaullah,
It should be presented in another forum, IMO in student forum.
Fallah
It should be presented in another forum, IMO in student forum.
Fallah
#3
Posted 08 October 2012 - 06:17 AM
sanaullah,
Would you please explain about the reason of your negative feedback on my post.
Fallah
Would you please explain about the reason of your negative feedback on my post.
Fallah
Edited by fallah, 08 October 2012 - 06:21 AM.
#4
Posted 08 October 2012 - 06:28 AM
Sizing: Determine the required capacity for the equipment, generally used in the specifications
Rating: Determine the actual capacity for the equipment, generally used for existing equipment or for the equipment selected in response to the specifications.
For a relief valve, for example, the orifices are provided in discrete sizes. When you "size" the valve you actually are determining the minimum orifice size. Then, you obtain the valve with a larger standard orifice. You could "rate" the one that is purchased.
Rating: Determine the actual capacity for the equipment, generally used for existing equipment or for the equipment selected in response to the specifications.
For a relief valve, for example, the orifices are provided in discrete sizes. When you "size" the valve you actually are determining the minimum orifice size. Then, you obtain the valve with a larger standard orifice. You could "rate" the one that is purchased.
#5
Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:57 AM
Sizing involves design -say Boiler ,H.E, P.V etc
Rating is a designation of an equipment say H. E in KW,Motor in KW,Power plant in Mw etc.
Rating is a designation of an equipment say H. E in KW,Motor in KW,Power plant in Mw etc.
#6
Posted 10 November 2012 - 06:06 AM
Sizing refers deisgning and making specifications (with diamnesions) of a new equipement for required process/duty/design intent.
While rating is determing the adequacy of an existing equipment for revised/alternate process conditions required after revamping or any process parameter change.
While rating is determing the adequacy of an existing equipment for revised/alternate process conditions required after revamping or any process parameter change.
#7
Posted 10 November 2012 - 02:59 PM
Every one above has described design. Rating for heat exchangers takes a given design and gives an evaluation. It primarily calculates the amount of excess or deficient surface. It alco calculates the pressure drops of both sides.
#8
Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:38 AM
Rating represents/denotes a specific parameter of duty condition :e.g say capacity of Heat ex changer in kcal/hr ; pressure drop
allowable in mmwc etc
A well designed shell and tube heat ex changer will handle its rated load under the conditions for which it was
specified.
Emergencies occur in some processes, and it may be advantageous to have some extra margin of heat
ex-changer capacity to take care of them.
Another example is say Refrigerator.-where you find say Rated current :--- amps; max current -- amps;
Rated input power ---kw ; max power input----kw ; Rated frequency ---mhz/ cycles per sec.
Based on the performance evaluation under duty conditions for which the equipment is designed, one can check the Rating and de
value/de rate if called for. ( De rating the boiler based on longevity ,performance etc).
You have to size the equipment based on Duty called for -e.g 20 MM kcal/hr output for an exchanger for specific conditions of flow and
press ,temp etc.
Designed equipment for the above rating can reveal the adequacy during appropriately conducted trials.
So Rating gives the limits of duty. Sizing is done based on the required specifications/duty conditions,
using codes and design practices.
Another e.g
Pump is rated as capacity/pres/temp/NPSH/total head. M3/HR ,Metres of water column etc
Sizing of pump- impeller,volute casing bearing, coupling Torque/speed ,m.o.c etc are based on the above duty conditions.
allowable in mmwc etc
A well designed shell and tube heat ex changer will handle its rated load under the conditions for which it was
specified.
Emergencies occur in some processes, and it may be advantageous to have some extra margin of heat
ex-changer capacity to take care of them.
Another example is say Refrigerator.-where you find say Rated current :--- amps; max current -- amps;
Rated input power ---kw ; max power input----kw ; Rated frequency ---mhz/ cycles per sec.
Based on the performance evaluation under duty conditions for which the equipment is designed, one can check the Rating and de
value/de rate if called for. ( De rating the boiler based on longevity ,performance etc).
You have to size the equipment based on Duty called for -e.g 20 MM kcal/hr output for an exchanger for specific conditions of flow and
press ,temp etc.
Designed equipment for the above rating can reveal the adequacy during appropriately conducted trials.
So Rating gives the limits of duty. Sizing is done based on the required specifications/duty conditions,
using codes and design practices.
Another e.g
Pump is rated as capacity/pres/temp/NPSH/total head. M3/HR ,Metres of water column etc
Sizing of pump- impeller,volute casing bearing, coupling Torque/speed ,m.o.c etc are based on the above duty conditions.
#9
Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:50 AM
Sizing - the minimum size/flow required.
Rating - actual flow at specified conditions (10% OP).
Rating - actual flow at specified conditions (10% OP).
#10
Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:56 PM
1. Design is to determine the size (area) and configure the heat heatexchanger that meet a specified heat duty. Simply put, heat duty is known, area unknown.
2. Rating is to determine the heat duty for a specified size and configuration of an exchanger. Simply put, size and configuration is known, duty unknown.
2. Rating is to determine the heat duty for a specified size and configuration of an exchanger. Simply put, size and configuration is known, duty unknown.
#11
Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:15 AM
I wish to cite another example :Air conditioner Ratng in ton of cooling say 2 t,5t etc .1t of cooling=200 btu/mt.
Sizing is the design of the equipment -HTA ,fluid flow rate etc for the respective rating.
Also for transformer Rating may be 32 KVA etc. sizing is based on the design -no of turns /coils etc
Sizing is the design of the equipment -HTA ,fluid flow rate etc for the respective rating.
Also for transformer Rating may be 32 KVA etc. sizing is based on the design -no of turns /coils etc
#12
Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:28 AM
Computer programs for heat exchangers have normally two modes of calculation:
design: determining exchanger size and geometry to meet users limitations
rating:determining whether an exchanger which users specified has adequate surface area
design: determining exchanger size and geometry to meet users limitations
rating:determining whether an exchanger which users specified has adequate surface area
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