Hi all,
I am working with a group on "Flare-Radiation Study Project" for an existing platform. And I am given an excel-spreadsheet created by someone else to calculate the 3D points radiation data for the current flaring data. First thing I am asked to validate the spreadsheet for Project use which I almost have finished doing except the Flame length calculations.
it uses following three terms & res. formula which I couldn't find in API/GPSA, etc.
I would greatly appreciate any guidance/help to validate the source/s of those formulas/equations.
API FLAME LENGTH: 0.00604*(heat release)^0.4776
SONIC FLAME LENGTH: 0.004503 * (heat release)^0.459882
EFFECTIVE FLAME LENGTH: (1- Tip MACH Number) *API Flame Length + (Tip MACH Number * Sonic Flame Length)
I refered API 521 (2007), it uses a plot betn flame length & heat release (fig.7 & 8) & its based on some plant-scale experimental work on flames; is there any empirical equation for it?
Does anyone have any information for me?
Thanks & Regards,
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Flame Length Calculation
Started by Deepali, Jul 19 2008 09:22 PM
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Posted 19 July 2008 - 09:22 PM
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Posted 19 July 2008 - 11:52 PM
Milton Beychok fitted the datapoints from API STD 521 in his book "fundamentals of stack gas dispersion". The result for flame height is shown on the Book cover :
hfv = 0.0042*Q^0.478
Q is heat released (lower heating value) in BTU/hr
hfv is flame height in feet
Since he assumed a 45 degrees angle, the flame length is:
flame length = 0.0059*Q^0.478
(note that 0.0059=0.0042*sqrt(2))
which is very similar to your first equation. Probably someone else curve fitted this equation on the datapoints read from the API 521 graph (figure 8 on page 82).
I don't know what you mean with sonic flame length or effective flame length.
hfv = 0.0042*Q^0.478
Q is heat released (lower heating value) in BTU/hr
hfv is flame height in feet
Since he assumed a 45 degrees angle, the flame length is:
flame length = 0.0059*Q^0.478
(note that 0.0059=0.0042*sqrt(2))
which is very similar to your first equation. Probably someone else curve fitted this equation on the datapoints read from the API 521 graph (figure 8 on page 82).
I don't know what you mean with sonic flame length or effective flame length.
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Guest_shanesheoran_*
Posted 19 July 2008 - 11:56 PM
Have you tried Thermal Analyser software? It is widely used in Calculations for Flare Systems.
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Guest_shanesheoran_*
Posted 20 July 2008 - 12:46 AM
Thanks gvdlans,
Pretty Knowlegable and to the point person:
Pretty Knowlegable and to the point person:
#5
Posted 20 July 2008 - 01:36 AM
Thank you so much gvdlans!
thats really helpful.
I am trying define the term "SONIC FLAME LENGTH" used in the calculations which is not present in API but not getting a clue.
Please let me know if you can guide on it too.
Once again thanks a ton!
thats really helpful.
I am trying define the term "SONIC FLAME LENGTH" used in the calculations which is not present in API but not getting a clue.
Please let me know if you can guide on it too.
Once again thanks a ton!
#6
Guest_shanesheoran_*
Posted 20 July 2008 - 01:58 AM
50 GJ/Hour Flare
Dear All. I am trying to design a 50 GJ/Hr(1100 Kg/Hr Dry Methane) in a 2 Meter2 Cross Section and 10 meters height with a residence time of around 1.5 seconds.
I did the draught flow rate(assuming inside temperature is maintained at 550 Degree"C") and outside temperature is 20 degree "C".(using the standard draught calculation formula::0.65*Area*Sqrt(2gH(Ti-Te/Ti)). which gives a draught speed of 13.5m3/sec.
However this puts me at wrong feet:: If sweept speed is 13.5m3/sec than the residence time will be down to 1 second or near by(keeping the height of stack 10 meters in mind).
Any "smart person", to help on this. Is 10 Meters Height and 1.3 Meters Diameter Stack is Fine.
Dear All. I am trying to design a 50 GJ/Hr(1100 Kg/Hr Dry Methane) in a 2 Meter2 Cross Section and 10 meters height with a residence time of around 1.5 seconds.
I did the draught flow rate(assuming inside temperature is maintained at 550 Degree"C") and outside temperature is 20 degree "C".(using the standard draught calculation formula::0.65*Area*Sqrt(2gH(Ti-Te/Ti)). which gives a draught speed of 13.5m3/sec.
However this puts me at wrong feet:: If sweept speed is 13.5m3/sec than the residence time will be down to 1 second or near by(keeping the height of stack 10 meters in mind).
Any "smart person", to help on this. Is 10 Meters Height and 1.3 Meters Diameter Stack is Fine.
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Guest_shanesheoran_*
Posted 20 July 2008 - 02:35 AM
Hi Deppali
Sonic flows correspond to lowest stack diameter in flow rate range.
Hope this leads you in right direction[/size]
Sonic flows correspond to lowest stack diameter in flow rate range.
Hope this leads you in right direction[/size]
#8
Posted 20 July 2008 - 03:08 PM
Thanks Shanesheoran!
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