I'm currently working on a project analyzing chiller efficiency and have run into some confusion. I understand that the efficiency of water cooled chillers should be less than 1 kW/ton but we don't use just water; rather, we utilize a 55/45 methanol/water combo for our cooling and cool from -25 to -30 degrees C.
My analysis came up with a kw/ton value of 2.3 and at first I thought my electrician had hooked up the recorder somewhere else. But is this in fact an expected efficiency? I really don't have any design kW/ton information to compare to unfortunately and am not too sure about what at optimal kW/ton efficiency would be for this methanol/water cooled chiller.
Any advice is much appreciated.
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Chiller Efficiency
Started by Guest_Mike_*, Jun 25 2004 09:48 AM
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Guest_Mike_*
Posted 25 June 2004 - 09:48 AM
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Posted 28 June 2004 - 03:14 PM
To clarify:
I'm not sure about how you've expressed the chiller efficiency in kW/ton. kW are units for flow of energy (power). Ton (or tonne in metric) is a unit of mass. I'm assuming that what you want to look at is either the energy extracted for a specific mass (kJ/tonne) or the flow of energy associated with a particular flow of mass (kW/tonne/day or kW/tone/hr).
Having said that, in the rest of my response I will assume that you have your units correct.
The value that you give as an efficiency looks like a design value, and it doesn't mean that higher efficiencies aren't attainable. The only thing to check to make sure your values are resonable is to perform an energy balance around your heat exchanger. The fact that you use a methanol/ water mixture (obviously since water will freeze at the temperatures you've given) just means that you need to consider a different heat capacity than for pure water.
As to what is "optimal" efficiency, I would think you would want to get as much chilling duty as possible. Whatever duty you take out of the chilling fluid, you will have to put back in later. The adavntage to getting more duty per mass is that you can have lower pumping rates and save energy there. There are only two limits I can think of, which are the temperature approach on the heat exchanger and the velocities required to maintain effective heat transfer.
I'm not sure about how you've expressed the chiller efficiency in kW/ton. kW are units for flow of energy (power). Ton (or tonne in metric) is a unit of mass. I'm assuming that what you want to look at is either the energy extracted for a specific mass (kJ/tonne) or the flow of energy associated with a particular flow of mass (kW/tonne/day or kW/tone/hr).
Having said that, in the rest of my response I will assume that you have your units correct.
The value that you give as an efficiency looks like a design value, and it doesn't mean that higher efficiencies aren't attainable. The only thing to check to make sure your values are resonable is to perform an energy balance around your heat exchanger. The fact that you use a methanol/ water mixture (obviously since water will freeze at the temperatures you've given) just means that you need to consider a different heat capacity than for pure water.
As to what is "optimal" efficiency, I would think you would want to get as much chilling duty as possible. Whatever duty you take out of the chilling fluid, you will have to put back in later. The adavntage to getting more duty per mass is that you can have lower pumping rates and save energy there. There are only two limits I can think of, which are the temperature approach on the heat exchanger and the velocities required to maintain effective heat transfer.
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Guest_Ben Thayer_*
Posted 29 June 2004 - 11:56 AM
I understood his reference to "ton" to mean 12,000 BTU/hour of cooling. As I recall, this is the amount of energy that needs to be removed to form one ton of ice in one hour.
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Guest_Shaun_*
Posted 29 June 2004 - 02:45 PM
So then, does the original design figure of 1 kW/ton have much meaning in this case, since Mike does not seem to be producing ice? or is this a more generic term?
The refrigeration I deal with is in the natural gas industry for producing LPG's and we don't use this kind of terminology. Does this come from the food processing industry refrigeration or something like that?
The refrigeration I deal with is in the natural gas industry for producing LPG's and we don't use this kind of terminology. Does this come from the food processing industry refrigeration or something like that?
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Guest_Mike_*
Posted 30 June 2004 - 10:27 AM
Pharmaceutical Industry... the efficiency is basically 2.2 kW put into the system to get out 1 cooling ton (or 12,000 btu/hr) as mentioned above. It seems as if this is an expected efficiency from what I've heard so far... I still expected a lower value though....
#6
Posted 30 June 2004 - 11:43 AM
Mike:
I believe your confusion stems from your use of terminology that is not used in a clear or accurate manner. This causes confusion on your part as well as that of others you communicate with.
Efficiency is a measurement of a consumption (usually energy) relative to an accepted (& identified) base. For example, you can measure the amount of total energy your refrigeration system consumes and compare it to the theoretical, perfect thermodynamic consumption required by a Carnot cycle. You can use any base you desire, as long as you identify it.
What you are stating are unit consumptions of energy, not efficiencies. This is what tends to be confusing. You also fail to identity what "ton" you are referring to -- a mass ton or a "refrigerating ton"? This additionally causes confusion. I believe you mean a refrigeration ton. Ben Thayer is correct in identifying the normal use of a refrigerating ton. This is quite conventional and usual in the refrigeration industry - either applied in chemical plants, phamaceutical, or food processing -- at least in the USA. It is not used in SI unit countries or environments.
Shaun is correct in pointing to the use of unit consumptions as not being representative of "efficiencies". To be "efficient", a machine must be related to a base or a standard measurement. Efficiency is inherently relative - not absolute, like unit consumptions.
I hope this helps clear up what you presented.
I believe your confusion stems from your use of terminology that is not used in a clear or accurate manner. This causes confusion on your part as well as that of others you communicate with.
Efficiency is a measurement of a consumption (usually energy) relative to an accepted (& identified) base. For example, you can measure the amount of total energy your refrigeration system consumes and compare it to the theoretical, perfect thermodynamic consumption required by a Carnot cycle. You can use any base you desire, as long as you identify it.
What you are stating are unit consumptions of energy, not efficiencies. This is what tends to be confusing. You also fail to identity what "ton" you are referring to -- a mass ton or a "refrigerating ton"? This additionally causes confusion. I believe you mean a refrigeration ton. Ben Thayer is correct in identifying the normal use of a refrigerating ton. This is quite conventional and usual in the refrigeration industry - either applied in chemical plants, phamaceutical, or food processing -- at least in the USA. It is not used in SI unit countries or environments.
Shaun is correct in pointing to the use of unit consumptions as not being representative of "efficiencies". To be "efficient", a machine must be related to a base or a standard measurement. Efficiency is inherently relative - not absolute, like unit consumptions.
I hope this helps clear up what you presented.
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Guest_Selvan_*
Posted 02 July 2004 - 03:29 PM
Hello Mike,
What u are asking for is the electric power consumption for one tons of refrigeration.
This will depend on various factors like:
1) What type of compressor you are using ?
From the value I see u are using a reciprocating compressor. If you use
SCrew compressor it would be much less and centrifugal compressors
still much lesser.
2) It will vary upon the supplier of the compressor also.
The best what you can do is the contact the Vendor and get the details and see the exact TR obtained in the plant and the power consumption and calculate and cross check it.
What u are asking for is the electric power consumption for one tons of refrigeration.
This will depend on various factors like:
1) What type of compressor you are using ?
From the value I see u are using a reciprocating compressor. If you use
SCrew compressor it would be much less and centrifugal compressors
still much lesser.
2) It will vary upon the supplier of the compressor also.
The best what you can do is the contact the Vendor and get the details and see the exact TR obtained in the plant and the power consumption and calculate and cross check it.
#8
Posted 02 July 2004 - 04:47 PM
Selvan:
I'm afraid I have to contradict your rankings on the relative efficiency of the three type of compressors you have listed. I have used all 3 types, in various applications and sizes and can attest to the following:
1) The most energy efficient refrigeration compressor continues to be the positive displacement reciprocating compressor - specifically, the 2- stage models with an interstage economizer. No other type of compressor comes close to the mechanical efficiency and low unit energy consumption (KWH consumed / ton of refrigeration output)
2) Right behind the reciprocating compressor ranks the oil-flooded screw compressor. Here, the energy required to pump, cool, and separate the required oil needed to "flood" the screw must be taken into consideration because without it, the machine is very inefficient and can't compete.
3) The centrifugal compressor is the least efficient in converting electrical energy into mechanical/refrigeration energy. This is well documented and can easily be found in the literature. Besides, it is to be expected. It is the tradeoff that one must pay for gaining simplicity and less maintenance costs.
I didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea about the basic characteristics behind each of these machines when employed in a refrigeration application. There are good, engineering reasons for picking any one of the three for a certain application. But an engineer must take into consideration each of the vital and important tradeoffs as well as the advantages that each machine brings with it. Volumes of good books have been written on the subject and I highly recommend all Chemical Engineers to strive to familiarize themselves with each one of these machines and their mechanical features and drawbacks.
I hope the above helps in explaining what I have tried to point out.
Art Montemayor
Spring, TX
I'm afraid I have to contradict your rankings on the relative efficiency of the three type of compressors you have listed. I have used all 3 types, in various applications and sizes and can attest to the following:
1) The most energy efficient refrigeration compressor continues to be the positive displacement reciprocating compressor - specifically, the 2- stage models with an interstage economizer. No other type of compressor comes close to the mechanical efficiency and low unit energy consumption (KWH consumed / ton of refrigeration output)
2) Right behind the reciprocating compressor ranks the oil-flooded screw compressor. Here, the energy required to pump, cool, and separate the required oil needed to "flood" the screw must be taken into consideration because without it, the machine is very inefficient and can't compete.
3) The centrifugal compressor is the least efficient in converting electrical energy into mechanical/refrigeration energy. This is well documented and can easily be found in the literature. Besides, it is to be expected. It is the tradeoff that one must pay for gaining simplicity and less maintenance costs.
I didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea about the basic characteristics behind each of these machines when employed in a refrigeration application. There are good, engineering reasons for picking any one of the three for a certain application. But an engineer must take into consideration each of the vital and important tradeoffs as well as the advantages that each machine brings with it. Volumes of good books have been written on the subject and I highly recommend all Chemical Engineers to strive to familiarize themselves with each one of these machines and their mechanical features and drawbacks.
I hope the above helps in explaining what I have tried to point out.
Art Montemayor
Spring, TX
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Guest_Selvan_*
Posted 03 July 2004 - 03:05 AM
Art Montemayor sir,
I had been a real fan of you in the replies you give in this forum because of the fundamental things you talk about. It makes us things understand better.
But in this case I am afraid sir because the experience and the suppliers comments are reverse and it is as per the ranking done by me.
Sir, initially the Screw compressors has been consuming more energy but now present ones are made energy efficient. Just for comparison I am giving my practical experience on the above ;
We had a Reciprocating Chilled water compressor system where in we have the unit consumption of around 1.1 kwh/TR of refrigeration at 5 - 8 ° C. We had after consultations had gone for Screw compressor where the power consumption is only 0.8 kwh/TR of refrigeration at the same temperature. Further the screw compressors have inbuilt capacity adjustment system where in for the varying load conditions it will care of itself. So definetely the Screw compressors are better in energy efficient point of view and in India many companies are going for the same.
The Centrifugal compressors are still better than the screw compressors and the power consumption claimed by party is only 0.6 Kwh/TR but the problem has been that it was supplied or used when there is a huge requirement of say 200 or 500 TR only. Presently centrifugal compressors are also being produced for the less refrigeration capacities like 50 TR.
Further in Perry's Handbook also there is a comparison chart on the 3 types of compressor in 12-37 page sixth edition. The only change is that the screw compressors are more power consuming which has been made efficient now.
I am looking forward for having more interaction so that I can get my fundamentals right sir.
- Selvan.
I had been a real fan of you in the replies you give in this forum because of the fundamental things you talk about. It makes us things understand better.
But in this case I am afraid sir because the experience and the suppliers comments are reverse and it is as per the ranking done by me.
Sir, initially the Screw compressors has been consuming more energy but now present ones are made energy efficient. Just for comparison I am giving my practical experience on the above ;
We had a Reciprocating Chilled water compressor system where in we have the unit consumption of around 1.1 kwh/TR of refrigeration at 5 - 8 ° C. We had after consultations had gone for Screw compressor where the power consumption is only 0.8 kwh/TR of refrigeration at the same temperature. Further the screw compressors have inbuilt capacity adjustment system where in for the varying load conditions it will care of itself. So definetely the Screw compressors are better in energy efficient point of view and in India many companies are going for the same.
The Centrifugal compressors are still better than the screw compressors and the power consumption claimed by party is only 0.6 Kwh/TR but the problem has been that it was supplied or used when there is a huge requirement of say 200 or 500 TR only. Presently centrifugal compressors are also being produced for the less refrigeration capacities like 50 TR.
Further in Perry's Handbook also there is a comparison chart on the 3 types of compressor in 12-37 page sixth edition. The only change is that the screw compressors are more power consuming which has been made efficient now.
I am looking forward for having more interaction so that I can get my fundamentals right sir.
- Selvan.
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