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#1 Guest_mariusz_*

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 03:22 AM

Hello
I'm looking for standards, guidelines how to determine max. mechanical design temperature of blowdown system (pipes, knockout drum). In API 521 I haven't found detailed information if it's possible to take into account autorefrigeration and calculate max. mechanical design temperature of blowdown system as dew point temperature under the pressure occured in blowdown system.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 04:40 AM

QUOTE (mariusz @ Feb 19 2009, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello
I'm looking for standards, guidelines how to determine max. mechanical design temperature of blowdown system (pipes, knockout drum). In API 521 I haven't found detailed information if it's possible to take into account autorefrigeration and calculate max. mechanical design temperature of blowdown system as dew point temperature under the pressure occured in blowdown system.

Thanks in advance
Mariusz


As far as i know,in blowdown systems minimum mechanical design temperature would be the main concern because of low temperature nature of such systems.

The maximum mechanical design temperature would be the maximum operating temperature that a given equipment (and associated pipings) may subject to,plus reasonable margin.


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Posted 20 February 2009 - 07:09 AM

I do consider that you can take into account the autorefrigeration effect.


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Posted 24 February 2009 - 01:20 AM

Thanks Sirs. But if You know any standard, article, guidelines, etc about this subject (taking into account autorefrigeration in calculating max. mechanical design temperature of blowdown system) please inform me.
Thanks in advance


#5 JoeWong

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (mariusz @ Feb 24 2009, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Sirs. But if You know any standard, article, guidelines, etc about this subject (taking into account autorefrigeration in calculating max. mechanical design temperature of blowdown system) please inform me.
Thanks in advance


I just thinking if you consider autorefrigerant for low temperature assessment, why not for max. design temperature...


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Posted 05 March 2009 - 01:19 AM

QUOTE (JoeWong @ Mar 1 2009, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mariusz @ Feb 24 2009, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Sirs. But if You know any standard, article, guidelines, etc about this subject (taking into account autorefrigeration in calculating max. mechanical design temperature of blowdown system) please inform me.
Thanks in advance


I just thinking if you consider autorefrigerant for low temperature assessment, why not for max. design temperature...




I consider what max. temp for relief system should be define: if take into account temperature gas decreasing due to depressurization or not. So if isothermal or adiabatic conditions exist in relief system.
But I have found an answer in API 521 that "actual flow conditions in relief systems are normally somewhere between isothermal or adiabatic conditions. For most cases the slightly more conservative isothermal equations are recommended", I will follow this recommendation, I think.




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